IndieWeb vs Indie Web - fyr.io

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@fLaMEd had bookmarked this, and it’s in part a response to one of my recent rants.

I have since updated the rant in question to address it.

I’m stilll drafting my own post, might happen that I’m back from holiday now

unless you know at least a little bit about websites and how they work,

This is a very generous read of the situation lol. I do have another post coming on this subject because I had an interesting email exchange that made me realise a few things.

Keen to see how this unfolds.

Still haven’t had a chance to jot down my thoughts yet

Some fun takes from this guy.

I’m content to let him have the last word, since I’ve had my say.

This guy sounds like fun. I’ll make sure to keep the conversation going ;)

I was going to post about that, but I decided it was better to send him an email. That’s more my style.

Just catching up on this one Ownership, connection, and control— IndieWeb stuff

Maybe I should’ve titled my zine “Welcome to the Personal Web” instead of “Welcome to the Indie Web”. I don’t actually know anything about the organization IndieWeb; I just used indie as short for independent. Do you think the title of the zine will cause confusion?

I’d have gone with “Welcome to the Web”, but if you don’t want to change the title you could always add a little aside to differentiate between the indie web and IndieWeb.

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I was going to write a post about this but I haven’t found the time, so I’ll post my take here. I think it’s weird to call the discourse a strawman argument when the Getting Started page on the indieweb wiki is directing people to get into services that implement all of the protocols (or implement them yourself). It doesn’t say “make a website and you’re on the indieweb”. You could make the argument that the indieweb wiki doesn’t represent everyone on the indieweb, but if someone wanting to get into personal websites sees people talking about the indieweb and searches for it, it is going to be the first thing they find, and it’s going to make them think it is way more complicated than it needs to be. It’s very frustrating to me that apparently no one affiliated sees this as a problem and that the real problem is pointing it out.

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This is why I don’t like a lot of techies, despite being one myself. They mistake their preferences for prescriptions, and once they get it into their heads that their over-engineered approach is the One True Way there’s no persuading them otherwise.